That’s what a friend of mine used to say when anyone else would just say, “WTF?” He would say, “that makes about as much sense as two dead flies.”
And that was my first thought when I watched Michael Voris’ video called “Angry Atheists.” This video goes on about how he was slandered and called dirty names (I’m betting “batshit” was among them) after he called for a “Catholic Monarchy” to replace Western government. In this video, he claims to be “clarifying” what it is he actually meant. In this video he says:
“Western civilization would be better off if it were a Catholic monarchy. How this comes about I don’t know. The point wasn’t to publicize a battle plan for overthrowing the secular humanist government. It was to point out that we are already living under a dictatorship. The dictatorship of relativism.”
And he complained incessantly about the “sad sack boo birds” who ridiculed this idea using vile, profane words. “Foul-mouthed, Catholic-bashing, invective-filled, hate speech” is what he called it. I guess some people just don’t like the idea of giving up democracy for a monarchy… He kept referring to his earlier video, so I looked for it. It was “removed by the user.” Apparently he started by censoring the comments. Then closing comments altogether. Then he removed the video (coward).
But, a quick Google search landed the mirrored copy I knew would be there. The atheosphere is dependable in that regard: someone is always ready to make internet faux pas of mad-hater Christians as forever as herpes.
Yipes! That guy truly is batshit!
His complaint begins with how “everyone gets to vote.” He points out that there are informed voters and there are “ignorant” voters. But he doesn’t really get the distinction right. For Voris, an “informed” voter is one that votes for things Voris agrees with. “Ignorant” voters are those that vote differently. For Voris, they’re obviously ignorant if they don’t think like he does. And he goes on to say that, if we’re going to insist on a voting system, then “only virtuous people” should be allowed to vote. Only Catholics would be considered virtuous to Voris -he makes this clear in his batshit rant.
In 2009, Catholics comprised 22% of the United States population. Voris proposes to have 78% of the population (using 2009 statistics) be ruled by 22%.
Bugs Bunny said it best: “What a maroon!”
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I think we all can agree that God isnt that important in society anymore. Hows that workin out for ya people? Hows that obama hope workin out? Are things good in this country now or going down the toilet…hmm….let me think. Until we stop killing the unborn this country is done. ps the batsh*t comment was brilliant. It really made me think.
As a practicing Catholic and social liberal (yes there are many of us out there!!) I cant believe what a total fool M. Voris is. If any Christian religion was ever to gain control of this country, it would be the Evangelicals who have already wormed they way into our government. And as we all know, Evangelicals are the most bigoted against any other religions including Christians who don’t share their exact Biblical view. The division of Church and State guarantees that all religions (even Catholics) can practice their beliefs.
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I’m not going to deny that perhaps Voris went a little bit off in that video, but the message was meant for catholics; in that sense, he was only trying to point out the fact that society would be perfect if only those who REALLY knew what’s best for society were allowed to vote, and as we (catholics) cannot commit the irresponsability of saying that all moral is equally valid (that would be the same as denying God), we are truly convinced that it is God’s moral that should rule, as it is really the best way to build a perfect society… but, of course, that was a HYPOTHETICAL, “IDEAL” system, as he pointed out on his “clearing things out” video, much like what Plato was trying to do in his “Republic” when he was making up an ideal political system of “philosopher kings”, this surely bears much resemblance with the point Voris was trying to make, only in his case the “philosopher” king is translated into “catholic king”; of course if you take out the word “benevolent” from his speech it naturally sounds atrocious, but “benevolent dictatorship” is obviously a concept that differs radically from “TYRANT DICTATOR”; I suppose a “benevolent dictator” is the kind that only rules in the basis of the common good and respects freedoms to the point it doesn’t turn into anarchy, while a “tyrant dictator” would only rule for his own purposes and would be, by default, burdensome.
Only those who have a bias against Michael Voris wouldn’t understand what he was trying to say or, would just try to distort the meaning of it. I presume that for much people it should be uncomfortable to listen to such things, as well as many things concerning the faith.
BTW. He apologized for the way he stated the idea on his video “Some Clarity” which can be seen on his channel. Get over it already.
The negative comments here miss Michael Voris’ point; democracy is a very flawed system because it is subjective and very relative to what is going on at a particular time; Michael states that a truly Catholic monarch who bases their decisions on God’s laws and not mans would be far better and he is right; The problem with democracy is that it twists itself around all the latest fads, delusions and falsehoods; much like the laws of Canada and the US have done; enshrining rights into law that are really priviledges for a select few and thinking that the all encompassing concept of ‘inclusion’ is never going to be ‘exclusionary’ and if it is; well then those excluded deserve to be anyway. Michael states objective truth; one that can never be changed because it’s rooted in God’s understanding of what will make us truly free; free from liberalism; which has grown like a cancer through all democratic processes in North America. But the left leaning will never see it that way. We can have a tyrany of man or we can have the tyrany of an all loving all powerful creator who treats us as the perfect Father and allows us to make our own decisions while all the time giving us prophets like Michael Voris who remind us that there is a price to pay for making our gods the things of this world; like believing that democratic process is the ephiphany of political expression; it isn’t.
Blaine, It’s lucky for the United States of America that we don’t put up with monarchies of any kind in our government. Not as dictated by real people or by imaginary beings.
The problem with a monarchy based on the laws of your god is that, regardless of what you believe, it ends up being based on what some asshole says is your god’s law. There’s simply no good reason to believe your god is any more real than Chac, Ptah or Quetzacoatl… so why is a Catholic monarchy any more right than a Mayan or Islamic monarchy?
I don’t want bigoted catholics like Voris anywhere near my government.
michael voris is one more reason the world situation has worsened with roman catholicism. he is a liar.
You can’t have morality without accountability…and few want to be accountable to anyone but themselves.
I’m not opposed to a monarchy in principle. There have been benevolent kings who have been a blessing to their people – but those kings have almost always been accountable to a Higher Power. There have been tyrants in all forms of government.
Vorhis simply stated that such a benevolent king would be better than what we have. I don’t see that as over-the-top.
How wise were our Founding Fathers! They knew that that fascists like Voris would always be around, waiting to jackboot their exclusive and “virtuous” beliefs on everyone else. Therefore, thank God, we have a First Admendment. For centuries, Europe was ruled by one-religion monarchies. Remember what that did for freedoms of speech, the press, & conscience? Let Voris run his Thought Police only in his sick dreams.
Voris calls his program “The Vortex”. Did he have bad dreams after viewing “Zardoz” during childhood?
Must all the Brutals die? Didn’t Zardoz command it?
Which I find utterly stunning. Freedom or oppression? When it comes to a monarchy, benevolence is relative to the opinion of the ruler. And Vorhis wants a monarch for no other reason than to compel those that don’t think as he does to do so. I wonder what Vorhis would think of a benevolent but atheist monarch? Or even a monarch that believed in different set of gods?
he is just trying to save the world from the fires of hell. only catholics will be in heaven. (oh, that is sarcasm)
this guy is full of bull doo doo. he was even banned from the Diocese of Scranton for being too intolerant of other faiths aside from his own.
Lolz, RealCatholicTV blocked for commenting about the “time of the atheist” hahah